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Post by Mavs on Apr 22, 2008 0:41:54 GMT -5
Mavs trade:
Paul Pierce + Etan Thomas
Blazers Trade:
Jerry Stackouse + 06 blzers first + mario austin + Ndudi ebi
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Post by Raptors on Apr 22, 2008 13:17:51 GMT -5
Mavs by a little.
Pierce declined -2, thats all i need to say.
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Post by Hornets on Apr 22, 2008 13:31:57 GMT -5
Blazers win. They get a much younger stud in Pierce plus a nice young big man.
And Stack has really lost any defense recently, that wasn't a good move by the Mavs at all.
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Post by Ex-Rockets on Apr 22, 2008 15:00:38 GMT -5
Blazers win. They get a much younger stud in Pierce plus a nice young big man. And Stack has really lost any defense recently, that wasn't a good move by the Mavs at all. Yep. Pierce is the best player in this deal, and he's still young. |
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Post by Raptors on Apr 22, 2008 15:03:15 GMT -5
Blazers win. They get a much younger stud in Pierce plus a nice young big man. And Stack has really lost any defense recently, that wasn't a good move by the Mavs at all. Yep. Pierce is the best player in this deal, and he's still young. I can't agree with this. Someone dropping more then improving in TC the past 2 - 3 years, vs someone who's been a consistent guy his whole career isn't really the better player in the deal. I think Stackhouse is still the better player. He scores 23 on a team with 2 other 20 PPG guys, Pierce barely gets 22 on a team where the next top scorer has 16. |
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Post by Ex-Rockets on Apr 22, 2008 15:10:03 GMT -5
Yep. Pierce is the best player in this deal, and he's still young. I can't agree with this. Someone dropping more then improving in TC the past 2 - 3 years, vs someone who's been a consistent guy his whole career isn't really the better player in the deal. I think Stackhouse is still the better player. He scores 23 on a team with 2 other 20 PPG guys, Pierce barely gets 22 on a team where the next top scorer has 16. Stackhouse is shooting 33% from the arc and he also turns it over two and a half times a game. The reason Stackhouse has nice stats is because he has Nash to give him the ball. A great PG makes the rest of the teams stats look better. Paul Pierce is averaging 22ppg. That's not that impressive, I agree, however when your starting PG has C+ handles and likes to score before passing, then of course you'll struggle. And Pierce is a B- B+ scorer, so I think 22ppg is very impressive when you consider his surrounding team and his actual scoring ratings. Anyway, I think your forgetting about the rest of Pierce's game. 9rpg 3.3apg 1.8spg with a low turnover ratio. Pierce is a whole lot more productive than Stackhouse IMO. Also, Blazers don't have a problem scoring. So this was the right move. Now they have a player that'll cause hell for opposing teams. He's very versatile and has a unique game that'll cause a lot of match up problems. |
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Post by Ex-Rockets on Apr 25, 2008 14:44:03 GMT -5
I told your Pierce is better.
Blazers are 13-0 with Pierce.
10-5 with Stackhouse.
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Post by Raptors on Apr 25, 2008 14:58:48 GMT -5
I told your Pierce is better. Blazers are 13-0 with Pierce. 10-5 with Stackhouse. Blazers aren't 13 - 0 WITH Pierce. There just really good and have a bad ass record every single year. They could of gone 13 - 0 with Stackhouse just as well like they have the past 4 seasons or more. |
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Post by danhiggins on Apr 25, 2008 15:39:02 GMT -5
OMG. Are you serious Rockets? Your credibility keeps taking hits every time you post. You're saying that because the Blazers went 13-0 and the Mavs went 10-5 that Pierce is better than Stackhouse? Pierce may (or may not) be better than Stackhouse, but the team record has ZERO to do with that evaluation.
Is this guys for real?
Sonics is absolutely right on this one. Last time I checked the Blazers still have Jermaine O'Neal, Ben Wallace, Michael Finley, and Steve Nash. I realize that's not like the superstar line-up of the Mavs with Erick Dampier, Troy Murphy, Richard Jefferson, and Jamal Crawford, but let's give the ENTIRE Blazers roster a little credit.
Some Gms never cease to amaze me. Good call Sonics.
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Post by Hornets on Apr 25, 2008 15:50:33 GMT -5
Stackhouse has his best time behind him. He still can score but his defense is next to non-existing. I'm pretty positive Pierce has more value in the long run.
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Post by danhiggins on Apr 25, 2008 16:06:42 GMT -5
Stackhouse has his best time behind him. He still can score but his defense is next to non-existing. I'm pretty positive Pierce has more value in the long run. This very well may be true, but Paul Pierce didn't exactly come in and turn the franchise around. They were a contender before Pierce got there. To say that Paul Pierce is the reason they're good isn't exactly accurate. |
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Post by Hornets on Apr 25, 2008 16:11:59 GMT -5
definitely.
If i want to win now, right away, i'd probably take Stack over PP, but for today only, not tomorrow.
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Post by Raptors on Apr 25, 2008 17:46:59 GMT -5
Pierce isn't bad either don't get me wrong, i just don't think that dropping more then you go up in the past 4 TC's is a good sign.
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Post by Ex-Rockets on Apr 25, 2008 19:02:09 GMT -5
OMG. Are you serious Rockets? Your credibility keeps taking hits every time you post. You're saying that because the Blazers went 13-0 and the Mavs went 10-5 that Pierce is better than Stackhouse? Um no, please read correctly before you start scrambling like an utter fool. I said that the Blazers went 13-0 with Pierce. And the Blazers went 10-5 with Stackhouse. And I think that shows that getting Pierce made the Blazers a better team. I said that Pierce was the best player in the deal, and that his play would make the blazers a better team. And guess what, it did. So please stop taking me out of context, it ruins your credibility and shows how immature you are. Thanks. |
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Post by Ex-Rockets on Apr 25, 2008 19:03:32 GMT -5
I told your Pierce is better. Blazers are 13-0 with Pierce. 10-5 with Stackhouse. Blazers aren't 13 - 0 WITH Pierce. There just really good and have a bad ass record every single year. They could of gone 13 - 0 with Stackhouse just as well like they have the past 4 seasons or more. Still though, I think Pierce is a better play. He has a really nice all around game, where Stackhouse can't really rebound, pass, or do the things Pierce can. Sure the blazers could have gone 13-0 with Stackhouse, but I think Pierce makes them a better team, personally. And I think Pierce is quite a bit better than Stackhouse. |
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